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	<title>Comments on: Reel Reviews - The Filth And The Fury</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it's been a long time since your Filth and the Fury review,  but I only just found your Podcast, which is excellent, and so I've  only just heard the review.

It sounded like you didn't know what a Jubilee is -- "something like  the 4th of July" you said.

I think it's important to understand what a Jubilee is in order to  fully understand the impact of the Sex Pistols' gesture.

A Jubilee is a major anniversary of a monarch's coronation. This  particular jubilee was the Queen's silver jubilee, marking 25 years  on the throne.  Nowadays, I would go as far as to say that a healthy  disrespect for the monarchy is the norm, but in 1977 it would have  been quite daring to be disrespectful of the Queen, especially on her  jubilee.  While the Sex Pistols were cruising down the Thames  performing "God Save the Queen", many Britons would have been  organising street parties, hanging up flags and bunting, to honour  the Queen and her jubilee.

The Sex Pistols' act could be compared to burning a US flag on the  4th of July I suppose.

Punk had a special relationship with the jubilee: see also Derek  Jarman's film "Jubilee" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076240</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s been a long time since your Filth and the Fury review,  but I only just found your Podcast, which is excellent, and so I&#8217;ve  only just heard the review.</p>
<p>It sounded like you didn&#8217;t know what a Jubilee is &#8212; &#8220;something like  the 4th of July&#8221; you said.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to understand what a Jubilee is in order to  fully understand the impact of the Sex Pistols&#8217; gesture.</p>
<p>A Jubilee is a major anniversary of a monarch&#8217;s coronation. This  particular jubilee was the Queen&#8217;s silver jubilee, marking 25 years  on the throne.  Nowadays, I would go as far as to say that a healthy  disrespect for the monarchy is the norm, but in 1977 it would have  been quite daring to be disrespectful of the Queen, especially on her  jubilee.  While the Sex Pistols were cruising down the Thames  performing &#8220;God Save the Queen&#8221;, many Britons would have been  organising street parties, hanging up flags and bunting, to honour  the Queen and her jubilee.</p>
<p>The Sex Pistols&#8217; act could be compared to burning a US flag on the  4th of July I suppose.</p>
<p>Punk had a special relationship with the jubilee: see also Derek  Jarman&#8217;s film &#8220;Jubilee&#8221; - <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076240" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076240</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

I don't remember having seen Surburbia (the 1984 Penelope Spheeris film - I've seen the 1996 Richard Linklater one by the same name).  However I assume you are refering to the Speeris film as it includes some great punk acts like T.S.O.L., The Vandals and D.I.   In connection with this show and the Repo Man show I have been asked repeatedly about my thoughts on Suburbia.  I picked it up on DVD today and I'll let you know when I get a chance to watch it.  Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember having seen Surburbia (the 1984 Penelope Spheeris film - I&#8217;ve seen the 1996 Richard Linklater one by the same name).  However I assume you are refering to the Speeris film as it includes some great punk acts like T.S.O.L., The Vandals and D.I.   In connection with this show and the Repo Man show I have been asked repeatedly about my thoughts on Suburbia.  I picked it up on DVD today and I&#8217;ll let you know when I get a chance to watch it.  Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, thanks for reviewing this one.  I've yet to see it, but it's definitely on my list now.  Have you ever seen the movie Suburbia?  If so, what'd you think of it?  

Link: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Y3WH/qid%3D1111645918/103-9278421-7867857"&gt;Suburbia&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, thanks for reviewing this one.  I&#8217;ve yet to see it, but it&#8217;s definitely on my list now.  Have you ever seen the movie Suburbia?  If so, what&#8217;d you think of it?  </p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Y3WH/qid%3D1111645918/103-9278421-7867857">Suburbia</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harold J. Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold J. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 06:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great review, Michael, and another great movie.  Just rented it and I've still yet to finish the audio commentary portion.  I've been fascinated with the Pistols since I was a teenage, way back in the 80's.  Though I was somewhat of a poseur back then, cutting up brown-and-black tie-died Sid Vicious tees and safety-pinning them to my leather jacket, my pants were genuinely torn and my Docs were stolen (from a friend, though, who graciously never stole them back.  Now that I recall this, I should probably buy him a new pair...)

I missed the Pistols, but I was fortunate enough to catch PIL live at Perkins Palace in Pasadena in the late 80's.  Johnny Lydon was absolutely brilliant live - so compelling and wonderful to watch.  I remember wanting to be like him for a long while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great review, Michael, and another great movie.  Just rented it and I&#8217;ve still yet to finish the audio commentary portion.  I&#8217;ve been fascinated with the Pistols since I was a teenage, way back in the 80&#8217;s.  Though I was somewhat of a poseur back then, cutting up brown-and-black tie-died Sid Vicious tees and safety-pinning them to my leather jacket, my pants were genuinely torn and my Docs were stolen (from a friend, though, who graciously never stole them back.  Now that I recall this, I should probably buy him a new pair&#8230;)</p>
<p>I missed the Pistols, but I was fortunate enough to catch PIL live at Perkins Palace in Pasadena in the late 80&#8217;s.  Johnny Lydon was absolutely brilliant live - so compelling and wonderful to watch.  I remember wanting to be like him for a long while.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Reilly</title>
		<link>http://reelreviewsradio.com/archives/2005/02/04/reel-reviews-the-filth-and-the-fury/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey man, caught up with your last three shows this morning while cleaning the house. Loved all of them, but especially liked your insight about how the Pistols' are the only ones in TF&#038;TF who wouldn't look out of place today. That really goes put many things into perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey man, caught up with your last three shows this morning while cleaning the house. Loved all of them, but especially liked your insight about how the Pistols&#8217; are the only ones in TF&#038;TF who wouldn&#8217;t look out of place today. That really goes put many things into perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beaty, great post. Thank you for taking the time to write it up.    

Eric and logovo, I'm really glad you guys are enjoying the shows.  Comments like yours are what keep me going.

Thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beaty, great post. Thank you for taking the time to write it up.    </p>
<p>Eric and logovo, I&#8217;m really glad you guys are enjoying the shows.  Comments like yours are what keep me going.</p>
<p>Thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: logovo</title>
		<link>http://reelreviewsradio.com/archives/2005/02/04/reel-reviews-the-filth-and-the-fury/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>logovo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate these looks into films that I didn't have in mind fpr my next trip to the video store. Thanks again!

ps - Your commenst on Memento blew me away because I *thought* I had it figured out. Turns out there was stuff I was ignoring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate these looks into films that I didn&#8217;t have in mind fpr my next trip to the video store. Thanks again!</p>
<p>ps - Your commenst on Memento blew me away because I *thought* I had it figured out. Turns out there was stuff I was ignoring.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael, 
Very nice podcast once again, I really enjoy your show ! Have you noticed you're mentioned in the USA today article ?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2005-02-09-podcasting-usat-money-cover_x.htm?csp=34

Adam linked to it from his weblog ;). Just thought I'd mention it.

Keep up the good work !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,<br />
Very nice podcast once again, I really enjoy your show ! Have you noticed you&#8217;re mentioned in the USA today article ?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2005-02-09-podcasting-usat-money-cover_x.htm?csp=34" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2005-02-09-podcasting-usat-money-cover_x.htm?csp=34</a></p>
<p>Adam linked to it from his weblog ;). Just thought I&#8217;d mention it.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work !</p>
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		<title>By: Beaty</title>
		<link>http://reelreviewsradio.com/archives/2005/02/04/reel-reviews-the-filth-and-the-fury/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Beaty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was listening to your review of the 'Filth and the Fury'...

And this reminded me of a story...

I lived through the original Punk era - and when I got the chance a few years ago to see the &lt;strong&gt;UK Subs&lt;/strong&gt; do a gig at a local venue I jumped at the chance to see one of my old favourites.

When I arrived at the scruffy little bar where they were playing ( - how the mighty have fallen! - ) I noticed a bit of an amusing stand off. Surrounding the stage were a large crowd of 'new wave'-punks - kids of 18-20 who were dressed up in 'punkesque' clothing and all behaving in what they thought was typical Punk behaviour!

...Then there was a kind of 'no mans land' between the stage and the bar, where a group of unlikely looking middle-ages characters stood (with their wives). These people looked every bit the suburbanites - some dressed in jackets and ties (looking like accountants), and others in cardigans - well on their way to middle age...

Then I realized I recognised some of them - even under the greying hair - &lt;strong&gt;these guys were original Punks, guys I knew from the late 70s!!!&lt;/strong&gt;

 :)

...The Nuevo-punks sneered at these 'oldies' - many of whom had obviously come straight to the gig from the office.

Some of them were still with the girlfriends they had back in 1979 (wives now - probably with a brood of teenagers of their own at home).

I couldn't get over the irony of it all - but the best was yet to come when the UK Subs finally came on, as it was blatantly obvious that Charlie Harper also recognized some of us at the bar, and proceeded to hold sporadic reminisces during the breaks between songs! This upset the 'new wave' punkets not a little! :D

At the end of the set Charlie jumped off the stage and cut a swathe through the throng of far too smartly dressed 'punkets' to join us at the bar...Fantastic!

Looking at Charlie Harper (known as the 'Grandfather of Punk') - who I hadn't seen this close since 1978 I saw a hero who time had not been kind too...So the whole thing turned out to be a bitter-sweet episode.

Julien Temple in his documentary - as you mentioned - chose to silhouette John (Jonny Rotten) Lydon and Paul Cook so that our focus would be on how they were 'in the good old days'. Now, maybe this is a good thing in one respect...But in another, aren't we just really trying not to think about how &lt;strong&gt;we ourselves&lt;/strong&gt; have also aged!

...I can hardly believe - as I sit at my office desk, with a pile of forms and schedules stacked by me, worrying about bills and the kids and all the other trappings of conformity - that I was the noxious 'rebel' who proudly spat from a music-hall balcony onto the likes of John Richie (Sid Vicious) and Dave Vanian (The Damned)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was listening to your review of the &#8216;Filth and the Fury&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>And this reminded me of a story&#8230;</p>
<p>I lived through the original Punk era - and when I got the chance a few years ago to see the <strong>UK Subs</strong> do a gig at a local venue I jumped at the chance to see one of my old favourites.</p>
<p>When I arrived at the scruffy little bar where they were playing ( - how the mighty have fallen! - ) I noticed a bit of an amusing stand off. Surrounding the stage were a large crowd of &#8216;new wave&#8217;-punks - kids of 18-20 who were dressed up in &#8216;punkesque&#8217; clothing and all behaving in what they thought was typical Punk behaviour!</p>
<p>&#8230;Then there was a kind of &#8216;no mans land&#8217; between the stage and the bar, where a group of unlikely looking middle-ages characters stood (with their wives). These people looked every bit the suburbanites - some dressed in jackets and ties (looking like accountants), and others in cardigans - well on their way to middle age&#8230;</p>
<p>Then I realized I recognised some of them - even under the greying hair - <strong>these guys were original Punks, guys I knew from the late 70s!!!</strong></p>
<p> <img src='http://reelreviewsradio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;The Nuevo-punks sneered at these &#8216;oldies&#8217; - many of whom had obviously come straight to the gig from the office.</p>
<p>Some of them were still with the girlfriends they had back in 1979 (wives now - probably with a brood of teenagers of their own at home).</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t get over the irony of it all - but the best was yet to come when the UK Subs finally came on, as it was blatantly obvious that Charlie Harper also recognized some of us at the bar, and proceeded to hold sporadic reminisces during the breaks between songs! This upset the &#8216;new wave&#8217; punkets not a little! <img src='http://reelreviewsradio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>At the end of the set Charlie jumped off the stage and cut a swathe through the throng of far too smartly dressed &#8216;punkets&#8217; to join us at the bar&#8230;Fantastic!</p>
<p>Looking at Charlie Harper (known as the &#8216;Grandfather of Punk&#8217;) - who I hadn&#8217;t seen this close since 1978 I saw a hero who time had not been kind too&#8230;So the whole thing turned out to be a bitter-sweet episode.</p>
<p>Julien Temple in his documentary - as you mentioned - chose to silhouette John (Jonny Rotten) Lydon and Paul Cook so that our focus would be on how they were &#8216;in the good old days&#8217;. Now, maybe this is a good thing in one respect&#8230;But in another, aren&#8217;t we just really trying not to think about how <strong>we ourselves</strong> have also aged!</p>
<p>&#8230;I can hardly believe - as I sit at my office desk, with a pile of forms and schedules stacked by me, worrying about bills and the kids and all the other trappings of conformity - that I was the noxious &#8216;rebel&#8217; who proudly spat from a music-hall balcony onto the likes of John Richie (Sid Vicious) and Dave Vanian (The Damned)!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, thanks for the kind words.  I always appreciate hearing from people in "the businesss".  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks for the kind words.  I always appreciate hearing from people in &#8220;the businesss&#8221;.  <img src='http://reelreviewsradio.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another awesome review! I ordered this from Amazon after your review! Loved it! Keep up the great work! Cheers, Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another awesome review! I ordered this from Amazon after your review! Loved it! Keep up the great work! Cheers, Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, thanks for the help with The Jubilee.  Glad you enjoyed the Reel Review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, thanks for the help with The Jubilee.  Glad you enjoyed the Reel Review.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the review, as always. As someone living in the UK thought I would just let you know that The Jubilee, rather than being a 4th July type celebration, was the Queen's Silver Jubilee, which celebrated the 25th anniversary of the Queen's accession to the throne. We don't celebrate it every year, just every 25, and it doesn't have the same universal appeal.
Looking forward to your next podcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the review, as always. As someone living in the UK thought I would just let you know that The Jubilee, rather than being a 4th July type celebration, was the Queen&#8217;s Silver Jubilee, which celebrated the 25th anniversary of the Queen&#8217;s accession to the throne. We don&#8217;t celebrate it every year, just every 25, and it doesn&#8217;t have the same universal appeal.<br />
Looking forward to your next podcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 08:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I always guessed you were Punk Rock.  Thanks for the comment and I am flattered you deemed me &lt;a href="http://new80s.blogspot.com/2005/02/owr-quote-of-day.html"&gt;quote worthy&lt;/a&gt;.  Great job with the new podcast, &lt;a href="http://new80s.blogspot.com/"&gt;Old Wave Radio&lt;/a&gt;! I've subscribed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I always guessed you were Punk Rock.  Thanks for the comment and I am flattered you deemed me <a href="http://new80s.blogspot.com/2005/02/owr-quote-of-day.html">quote worthy</a>.  Great job with the new podcast, <a href="http://new80s.blogspot.com/">Old Wave Radio</a>! I&#8217;ve subscribed.</p>
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		<title>By: dan klass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan klass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 03:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  LOVE THAT MOVIE. </description>
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